The “Over Beers” Podcast Ep. 1

I am starting a podcast.

“Over Beers” will be a 1-on-1 conversation program with the people who interest, inspire, and intrigue me most. The idea for the show is that the best way to get to know someone is by talking to them about things they love. The goal is to come to — and leave — every episode of “Over Beers” with one thing to read, one thing to watch, and one thing to listen to.

For this very first episode, my guest is my fellow HenHouse employee and certified cicerone, Bob Waegner. Bob’s words show up on every can of HenHouse Brewing Company beer, and he is the educational engine of our entire company. As I will with every guest, I asked Bob to send me something to read, something to watch, and something to listen to prior to our conversation. The options Bob sent me were wide-ranging, including an hour-long YouTube video of a first-hand account of a subterranean gun battle with extraterrestrials. The three items from Bob’s list that sparked the majority of our conversation were:

  1. The introduction to Christopher Mark O’Brien‘s 2006 book “Fermenting Revolution.”
  2. The “I Am A Craft Brewer” video, that the Brewers Association produced in 2009

3. One of my favorite albums of all-time “Let’s Get Free” by Dead Prez

During our conversation Bob and I discussed craft beer’s role as the “Forrest Gump of history,” and whether we believed our industry had the capability to a force for the greater good. We also talked about the difficulty of making political art that remains relevant and our mutual adoration of Boots Riley of The Coup.

We concluded with the following list of recommendations:

To watch…

  1. Jim Jarmusch’s 1999 film, “Ghost Dog: Way Of The Samurai”
  2. The 2013 documentary “Mirage Men,” which can be screened for free on You-Tube

3. The folk-historical documentary, “The House On Coco Road,” which is available on Netflix via ArrayNow

To read…

  1. “The New Food Movement Manifesto” from the book “Formerly Known As Food” by Kristin Lawless

To listen to…

  1. Boots Riley’s 2018 appearance on Jessie Thorn’s Bullseye Podcast

BONUS: This playlist I put together to highlight the influence of one of Boots Riley’s recurring lyrical references, the mirror in his pocket.